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Episode 8

Building AI-Native Sales Organizations That Deliver Results

Mar 24, 2026
43:28

Most AI tools in sales become shelfware within 90 days. Anup Khera, named Top 25 CRO to Follow in 2026, reveals why AI pilots fail and shares his 3-question prioritization filter for evaluating tools. Learn about the "distraction tax," measuring AI's real value beyond activity metrics, and building AI-native sales teams without losing human connection. Insights from scaling Attentive internationally and three major exits including ExactTarget's $3B Salesforce acquisition.

Paul Brzozowski

HOST

Olakai

Paul Brzozowski is the founder and CEO of Olakai, where he leads the development of innovative solutions at the intersection of technology and business strategy. With deep expertise in building scalable platforms and driving digital transformation, Paul brings a strategic vision to solving complex challenges in the modern technology landscape. His work focuses on creating practical, impactful solutions that help organizations navigate rapid technological change.

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Anup Khera

GUEST

Chief Sales Officer • Onclusive

Anup Khera is Chief Sales Officer at Onclusive, a leading AI-powered communications intelligence platform that helps organizations measure and optimize their earned media impact. With extensive experience building and scaling sales organizations in the martech and communications technology space, Anup drives go-to-market strategy and revenue growth for enterprise clients. His expertise spans AI-driven analytics, customer success, and helping brands leverage data to inform their communications strategies.

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Most AI tools in sales become shelfware within 90 days. In this episode, Paul Brzozowski sits down with Anup Khera, Chief Sales Officer at Onclusive, to unpack what it actually takes to build AI-native sales organizations that deliver results.

Anup was just named one of the Top 25 CROs to Follow in 2026. He was voted UK's #1 Sales Leader in both 2022 and 2023. He built Attentive's international business from employee #1 outside North America to massive eight-figure growth on the path to $100M ARR in under three years. He has been part of three major exits including ExactTarget's IPO and its close to $3B acquisition by Salesforce. Over 20 years scaling SaaS revenue engines across three continents.

Now at Onclusive, Anup is reviewing the entire AI stack for sales and building the frameworks to make sellers AI-native without losing the human touch that makes great sellers great.

What You'll Learn

  • Why most AI pilots fail (hint: it is not the technology)
  • The 3-question prioritization filter for evaluating AI tools
  • What the "distraction tax" means and how to apply it
  • How to measure AI's real value: hours saved vs. activity metrics
  • The change management playbook: empathy-first adoption
  • Why fully autonomous AI SDRs are overhyped (for now)
  • What "predictability beats potential" means for building exit-ready companies
  • Building international SaaS from zero to massive scale at Attentive
  • Lessons from three major exits including ExactTarget and Salesforce
  • The bathtub analogy for revenue quality that every founder needs to hear

About the Guest

Anup Khera is Chief Sales Officer at Onclusive. Named one of the Top 25 CROs to Follow in 2026. Previously VP & GM International at Attentive (employee #1 outside North America), and part of the European leadership team at ExactTarget through its IPO and close to $3B Salesforce acquisition. Voted UK's #1 Sales Leader in 2022 and 2023.

Anup Khera on LinkedIn

Onclusive

Episode Timestamps

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  • [0:00] Intro: Why Anup Khera and why this conversation matters now
  • [3:30] Building Attentive international from zero: the first 90 days
  • [12:00] Three exits: ExactTarget IPO, Salesforce acquisition, PE exit
  • [17:00] Core Q1: The biggest hurdle turning AI experimentation into success
  • [22:00] Core Q2: The one metric that proves AI's value
  • [25:00] Core Q3: The distraction tax and prioritization framework
  • [29:00] Core Q4: Governance that builds trust, not bureaucracy
  • [34:00] Core Q5: Where AI creates real impact in the next 12 months
  • [38:00] Deep Dive: What "AI-native sales" actually means in practice
  • [41:00] Deep Dive: Change management playbook for AI adoption
  • [44:00] Closing: "AI is a lever, not a strategy"

Key Quotes

"My job isn't to buy AI. My job is to buy outcomes."

"AI wins when it's invisible and it just seamlessly integrates."

"Sellers don't resist change. They resist extra work."

"Governance isn't a blocker. It's what makes scale possible."

"Rather than machine gun, use a sniper focus."

"The winners won't be the teams with the most AI. It'll be the teams who use it to spend more time being in front of their customers."

"If AI gives someone an extra hour with their family because they didn't spend the evening updating Salesforce, you've created value."

"AI is a lever, not a strategy. The strategy is still people, customers, and clarity."

Resources & Links

Olakai

Future of Agentic

Future of Assistive

Paul Brzozowski on LinkedIn

Olakai on LinkedIn